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The following is a transcript of an interview with Dr. Joshua Gordon, the director of the National Institute of Mental Health, that aired Sunday, Feb. 19, 2023, on “Face the Nation.”


MARGARET BRENNAN: There is a psychological well being disaster in our nation and we’re reminded of that regularly. For a more in-depth have a look at what might really feel to many like an epidemic, we need to usher in Dr. Joshua Gordon of The National Institute of Mental Health, which is the lead Federal Agency for analysis on psychological issues. Good morning to you, physician. 

DR. GORDON: Good morning. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: I need to begin on one in every of these triggers. You know, Senator Fetterman- Fetterman, a stroke survivor, checked himself into the hospital with medical melancholy, and it has impressed lots of people to speak about their experiences with melancholy. In his case, what are the signs of stroke induced melancholy?

DR. JOSHUA GORDON: The signs of stroke induced melancholy are just about the identical as typical melancholy or melancholy that is not related to stroke, low motivation, unhappiness, challenges with sleep, urge for food, vitality, lack of motivation, and the like.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So what’s an inexpensive expectation and timeline for somebody’s remedy? Do they get again to them- their outdated selves?

DR. GORDON: Fortunately, there are efficient therapies for melancholy and people therapies do usually work for most individuals who’ve stroke induced melancholy. The timeline, although, varies tremendously from particular person to particular person, and it is onerous to make a prediction within the senator’s case.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: What is the standard remedy for somebody lately? Is speak remedy nonetheless strongly believed in? Is medicine extra prescribed lately?

DR. GORDON: Well, given the standard severity of post-stroke melancholy, most- most psychological well being professionals would suggest a mix of medicine and what we name psychosocial or psychotherapeutic interventions. So sure, speak remedy continues to be used, it’s a very efficient device for melancholy, as are drugs. And if the sufferers do not reply to speak remedy or drugs, there are extra choices to attempt.

MARGARET BRENNAN: You know, there’s- there was this current CDC examine about teenage ladies, which was actually sobering. It stated almost three and 5 US teenagers, teen ladies, really feel persistently unhappy or hopeless, double that of boys, representing a 60% improve, the best degree reported over the previous decade. What is happening with younger ladies?

DR. GORDON: Well, it’s, it’s really a tragedy. It is actually a disaster. And we desperately have to do one thing about it on a societal degree. And on neighborhood ranges. The “what is going on question” is one which we will not absolutely reply at this level. Lots of people suppose, Oh, it have to be the pandemic and its results. But should you have a look at the surveys that the CDC has been conducting for the final decade or extra, you’ll be able to see the gradual rise in ranges of symptomatology, significantly amongst teenage ladies, goes again lengthy earlier than the pandemic began. So there are a selection of contributing components. But on the entire, it is a advanced image that we do not absolutely perceive.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: So what are mother and father presupposed to do?

DR. GORDON: That’s a terrific query. First and foremost, mother and father want to speak to their children, they should pay attention, they should ask questions on how they’re feeling. And in the event that they’re frightened, they do have to ask the query, are you excited about hurting your self or killing your self? So that is the very first thing, is ask questions. And the second factor, take heed to the responses and attempt to be there to your children. If the solutions counsel that your little one is having extra bother than your- than- than you suppose, or is considering harming themselves, or is in any other case having challenges, going to high school and getting good grades, etcetera. Then mother and father ought to search skilled assist.

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MARGARET BRENNAN: Doctor, thanks to your skilled perception. We’ll proceed monitoring it and we’ll be proper again.


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